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| | Gitter is an instant messaging and chat room system for developers and users of GitHub repositories. | | Gitter is an instant messaging and chat room system for developers and users of GitHub repositories. |
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| | The [https://billing.gitter.im/ billing page] shows that private rooms are limited to 25 users per private room (that must be the total number of users registered to a single chat room?). Payment entails $5 per person per month which is non-trivial and certainly a barrier to entry. I suppose we would use public rooms exclusively in any case? So disabled services are not an issue. | | The [https://billing.gitter.im/ billing page] shows that private rooms are limited to 25 users per private room (that must be the total number of users registered to a single chat room?). Payment entails $5 per person per month which is non-trivial and certainly a barrier to entry. I suppose we would use public rooms exclusively in any case? So disabled services are not an issue. |
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| | *gitter.im/openmod isn't available so it would have to be gitter.im/openmod-initiative | | *gitter.im/openmod isn't available so it would have to be gitter.im/openmod-initiative |
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Revision as of 19:13, 6 December 2016
This page is for technical information relating to the proposed software solutions, including features and limitations. The discussion page can then be used to debate the relative merits of each and to narrow down the field.
See the original google doc by Bryn.
Preamble
Wikipedia distinguishes between the following classes of discussion software:
Quoting loosely from Wikipedia: an internet forum (or message board) is an online discussion site where people can hold conversations in the form of posted messages. They differ from chat rooms in that messages are often longer than one line of text, and are at least temporarily archived.
My (Robbie) reading of the discussion thus far is that each of these classes is represented by a lead contender, respectively: Gitter, Discourse, and Slack. Let's focus on these products and only introduce new candidates as the need arises.
Key policy questions:
- public or private? — few (if any) reasons to be private?
- what is our attitude to paid hosting — if required for a good solution?
- what about additional google groups instead?
- would an institution be willing to host services for us?
- to what degree should we plan for growth?
Discourse
Discourse is a internet forum and mailing list management software application.
- self-hosting looks like the only option
- could easily migrate email list from Google Groups to this service
- accepts Markdown and HTML (together) for rich-formatting
- has a revision history
- supports so-called "wiki posts" — one can mark a post as collaboratively editable by trusted members
- community-based moderation and administration (to share the admin load)
- default discussion license is Creative Commons
- browsers before Internet Explorer 10 (released September 2012) not supported (unlikely to be a problem)
- works well on mobile devices
- rather than a large hierarchy of forums and sub-forums, uses categories instead (like Stack Overflow)
- just like other forum systems, Discourse offers a user profile page (another one!)
- the website at discourse.org is very much set up to push you towards hosting with them — as of 2014, plans start at $200 per month, apparently
- supports anonymous posting — do we want to enable that? (on first take, I think not)
Gitter
Gitter is an instant messaging and chat room system for developers and users of GitHub repositories.
Alternatives: Relay Chat|IRC and the KiwiIRC client
The billing page shows that private rooms are limited to 25 users per private room (that must be the total number of users registered to a single chat room?). Payment entails $5 per person per month which is non-trivial and certainly a barrier to entry. I suppose we would use public rooms exclusively in any case? So disabled services are not an issue.
Features/limitations:
- simply register to start
- GitHub logins are directly usable
- IRC bridge (beta) for easy access from your favourite chat client
- gitter.im/openmod isn't available so it would have to be gitter.im/openmod-initiative
Slack
Slack is a cloud-based team collaboration tool.
Alternatives: Ryver, Mattermost, Rocket.chat.
Features/limitations:
- the free version keeps only the most recent 10 000 chat messages
- cannot be self hosted
- closed house: messages cannot be referred to from outside and are not indexed by search engines
